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The Narrator's Orphaning Really Disturbed Me


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Think about it. Any one of the protagonists may have killed numerous innocent people without knowing or meaning to.

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Almost certainly, and I guess that's part of the point. You're not "Archangel of the Roundtable," after all.

Edited by KonoBaka, 15 September 2012 - 02:25 PM.


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I mean, it can even happen to a Knight who goes out of his way to stick to military targets.

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That kind of thing is exactly why the Ace Combat series isn`t a real big war promotion game. While I think that AC5 may have been the epitome of anti-war so far, this one example has a lot of impact, too.

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Taking the story from civilians view instead of military, that's what I like about AC04.

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AC6 tried to do something similar with fully animated cutscenes, but they just didn`t do as good a job in general.

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Think about it. Any one of the protagonists may have killed numerous innocent people without knowing or meaning to.



Is this guy for serious?

What in the goddamned fuck. THAT'S A STATEMENT. NOT A QUESTION.



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It's one of the things I like about AC4 to 6, they're stories about how war just sucks. However I think they got a bit carried away with AC5, to the point that it just became annoying. AC6's just came off as weird. The plot events for the other characters were too unrealistic to suspend disbelief.

But with AC6, I think they could have played more with the theme of sacrifice and loss. I think the final mission's BGM would've been more fitting if the radio chatter throughout the campaign mentioned casualties even if the player was doing well - Something AC4 had plenty of.

What in the goddamned fuck. THAT'S A STATEMENT. NOT A QUESTION.

What?

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What?


I was very drunk....and I honestly don't remember posting this. I looked at the New Posts thing...saw that I had posted in here and looked....and I don't even know what I meant.

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I was very drunk....and I honestly don't remember posting this. I looked at the New Posts thing...saw that I had posted in here and looked....and I don't even know what I meant.


That's why I never drink...

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Any one of the protagonists may have killed numerous innocent people without knowing or meaning to.


That happens in every real life war, it's safe to assume that it has happened in every single game too.

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I personally liked it, for it gave us the perspective of a civilian that pretty much saw his family die. We got to see the story through his eyes and we also get a nice idea of the perspective of the enemy main squad. Which is something that has been rarely done. Its nice to see a different perspective everyone and then. Also I didn't find it disturbing cuse when I first played AC4 I was around the same age as the kid

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It's simple effective storytelling at its best, reality of war, the childish innocence, the motivation and reasons for seeing the perpective of the enemy, as well as the inevitable conflict to ensue

It's a godd setup whichhelps to answer many of the right questions immediately, while leaving enough to want asking more and providing the proper empathy with the characters

Praise to whoever wrote it, though I still like AC5s the best, this one is easily the close second because of its simplicity and effective delivery

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Praise to whoever wrote it





Sunao Katabuchi of all people




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Sunao Katabuchi of all people

Wow, I had no idea. Black Lagoon and Ace Combat, both from the same fellow... That's pretty cool, actually.

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Wow, I had no idea. Black Lagoon and Ace Combat, both from the same fellow... That's pretty cool, actually.

I know right? he also did ace combat 5 but 04 he did the screen play and directed

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Its infinitely more intriguing than any of the other stories. Kid falls in with the guy who accidentally killed his family and writes to the only man (the player) that could possibly relate to try and understand him and his actions when not in the jumpseat?

The feels and the moral dilemmas man, far better than;

"OMG, it was Belka all along, lets team up guiz and take down the real baddies together!"

"yay!"


*puke*

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Its infinitely more intriguing than any of the other stories. Kid falls in with the guy who accidentally killed his family and writes to the only man (the player) that could possibly relate to try and understand him and his actions when not in the jumpseat?

The feels and the moral dilemmas man, far better than;

"OMG, it was Belka all along, lets team up guiz and take down the real baddies together!"

"yay!"


*puke*

I`ll agree that it is certainly more sophisticated than the plot of AC5, but its emotional power is very much dependent upon the type of person playing the game. Some people are more emotionally prone to the kind of thing we saw in AC04, and others more prone to the plot of AC5.

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I'm more for the complexities and emotional storyline of 5 myself, but the simplicity of 04 is delivered well enough to have a similar impact, though not as deep, still as powerful

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I'm still not seeing the "deep" in the AC5 plot. Defeated country wants revenge, makes Totally-not-russia fight Totally-not-the-USA fight each other and everyone teams up to save the day.