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Who would've won the Circum-Pacific War?


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Poll: So who would win? (115 member(s) have cast votes)

Osea or Yuktobania?

  1. Osea (48 votes [41.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.74%

  2. Yuktobania (40 votes [34.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.78%

  3. No one (8 votes [6.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.96%

  4. Voted Other - Please Specify (19 votes [16.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.52%

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I think if anything, a white peace would have been called down the lines. Simply put, the loss of life might have been catastrophic for both sides, so a stalemate is what I can logically see happening.

However, on Osea's defense, they had more advanced technology (from what I gather), and the ability of them to win a battle is what helped them advance as far as they did in the operations -not- involving the Razgriz.

In reverse, though, Yuktobania had numbers, and the element of surprise. The only reason they were counter-attacked is because of the Wardog Squadron defending Osea's Sand Island base. Plus, the Grabacr and Ofnir Squadron's were in the air, which pretty much established their aerial superiority over Osea.

Edited by Adamant, 09 May 2009 - 07:37 PM.


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yuks cause they had the belkan aces ofnir n grabarc training and all that.



Ah... Ofnir trained the Yukes and Grabacr (aka the 8492 Squadron) trained the Oseans... Where have you been??

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Okay, OSEA will win, because I say so

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Osea would win because they pretty much got to Stalingrad which would've ended the war. But if the Razgriz didn't exist its to hard to tell.

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Okay,

I think Yuktobania would win in the end, although they would be hammered hard by Osea.

Osea's initial attack by the three carriers and the other named ships (see mis 26) and their ground forces would have gained an early advantage, by taking over the Bastok peninsula.

Unfortunately, this is where it ends, without the Wardog squadron, the Yuktobanians clearly have air and ground superiority, given their bases at Pobeda, Sonza, Duga, and then the Ofnir squadron. The Oseans aren't helped when they have to spread out thinly to attack those three bases. By the time they get to Jilachi Desert, they would've been screwed, especially with no real fighter support (no wd), and if they survived, they would have been defeated at Cruik Fortress.

Then, the Yuke air units will probably bust out the Osean navy and shoot down Swordsman (before he joined WD) and retake the Bastok peninsula.

Edited by Solaris-1, 21 May 2009 - 01:18 AM.


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I would say Yuktobania, because they had the element of surprise, so they could advance at least to the Osean main land.

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i would say... Yuktobania because they had the element of surprise and in mission 4 there were no other planes in the sky except Wardog and if they were not there the yukes would have taken Sand Island and then Osea

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i would say... Yuktobania because they had the element of surprise and in mission 4 there were no other planes in the sky except Wardog and if they were not there the yukes would have taken Sand Island and then Osea



The only problem with them attacking Sand Island is unless they had long range tanker support it would be pretty much impossible. It would have been better of the B-1Bs would have fighter support from carrier based planes. Atleast in the Frontline mission, ALL the fighters are carrier based.

Same with Narrow Margin, the only planes used that were carrier based were the A-6Es and the F-14D Zipang, the rest were land based and F-5Es, F-4Es, and MIR-2000.

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Unfortunately, this is where it ends, without the Wardog squadron, the Yuktobanians clearly have air and ground superiority, given their bases at Pobeda, Sonza, Duga, and then the Ofnir squadron.

Ah but what if Cipher were to have been paid by the Oseans to join forces with them? After all Cipher shot down both Grabacr and Ofnir in The Round Table. :P

Edited by Mobius8492, 26 May 2009 - 09:02 AM.


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Ah but what if Cipher were to have been paid by the Oseans to join forces with them? After all Cipher shot down both Grabacr and Ofnir in The Round Table. B)


Yes, but he also disappeared. I don't think anyone found him neither, he probably retired.

But... what if Cipher was hired to fight for the Oseans?

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But... what if Cipher was hired to fight for the Oseans?


Then the Oseans had an 35 to 55 years old ace(don't know the age of Cipher).
If he is 35 to 40 years old in 2010 ,then he can maybe change the winner of war and Osea would win, but that's another story...

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dunno how the war would have ended...probably a stalemate. the yukes were using a blitzkreig type attack, they would have struk hard and deep into osea (like the eruseans in AC 04). But ultimately, as both countries are large, neither army would have the resources to hold too much territory. a tie just like the Belkans wanted.

END OF WAR STATS:
PEOPLE's OPINION ON VICTORY: NONE
TERRITORIAL VICTORY: YUKTIBANIA
POLITICAL VICTORY: OSEA

Yutibania has no reason to invade osea, just a waste of resources along with more land to defend (which is one of the same reasons the cold war in AC and here never turned hot).

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Yes, but he also disappeared. I don't think anyone found him neither, he probably retired.

But... what if Cipher was hired to fight for the Oseans?


What the hell has Cipher got to do with the debate. We're only basing our arguments using only evidence from Ace Combat 5

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What the hell has Cipher got to do with the debate. We're only basing our arguments using only evidence from Ace Combat 5



He's inferring that Cipher is Blaze...

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What the hell has Cipher got to do with the debate. We're only basing our arguments using only evidence from Ace Combat 5


Well forgive me for asking. Sheesh. ;)

He's inferring that Cipher is Blaze...


No I am not, I would never say that.

What I am saying is that Cipher's a mercenary, so what if the Oseans hired him to fight for them?

Edited by General Frostbite 249, 12 June 2009 - 07:57 AM.


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Well forgive me for asking. Sheesh. ;)



No I am not, I would never say that.

What I am saying is that Cipher's a mercenary, so what if the Oseans hired him to fight for them?



The Oseans didn't hire Mercs... Didn't need to.

And who says Cipher would have been for hire.. Since he made a Killing during the Belkan War, he could have retired.

Edited by absender, 12 June 2009 - 08:39 AM.


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The Oseans didn't hire Mercs... Didn't need to.

And who says Cipher would have been for hire.. Since he made a Killing during the Belkan War, he could have retired.


I know, I know. It was a "what if" question.

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I know, I know. It was a "what if" question.



But "WHAT IF" the Yukes would have hired him.. Hmmmmm Looks at the Ace pilot name in Fortress mission. :rolleyes:

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Yeah,the ace in the fortress mission does say Cypher,but isnt it spelt with an i,not a y

Edited by Purple Flower 1, 12 June 2009 - 12:32 PM.


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Yeah,the ace in the fortress mission does say Cypher,but that could also be someone else with the same name.



But it was a "WHAT IF" question so it could have been the same person, but then again, not... My point being is, you can pose the ""What if" questions all day, but in the end, it didn't happen so don't bother. :P