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#21
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Idiotic squabbles between Senior Members can be taken to their forum instead of cluttering up worthwhile threads.
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Hey if there is any way I can help please tell me.... I would love to get involved with the forums. Please, if there is anything, I mean ANYTHING I can do, please pm me about it, and I will get right to it.
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Before we go further, a novella by Eagle 1:

The following message is from Eagle 1 as a request to my friends in the Sins
& Saints, and is not an official operation. I need your help.

It is very important that you read this entire email. Because I am sending
it from our forums, I don't have any formatting capabilities, so be careful
reading parts of this email that are broken up into sections.

As some of you may have noticed at AceCombatSkies.com, I have been removed
from the staff completely, and Firegal has been demoted from her
administrative position. In what is now essentially going to become an
unofficial joint S&S/Aquila operation, I need all members who are registered
on AceCombatSkies.com to start making topics and posts about how wrong this
situation is, and that Firegal and me need to be readded as Administrators.
You need to contact everyone you know on ACS to do the same thing, and tell
any other squadron commanders that you know to send mass emails out on their
forums requesting the same thing.

Now, members of the S&S who have been here since AceCombat.net, and who know
me well know that it's worth it to help me out here, but for those of you
who are newer members, here's some details into the incident.

What is said below is part of an email that I sent to F22_Fan - our former
Information Warfare Officer, and the former Admin of AceCombatSkies.com:

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Hey, Zaku just took me off of the mod stuff completely, and degraded firegal
to an admin on AceCombatSkies.com. The two of us were the only admin staff
that ACS has left that was trying to hold the place together, and the only
ones who did anything right (other than Mike).

http://acecombatskie...mp;#entry426171

That is the topic that Zaku made about it. Apparently he had a talk with
Lionheart and made this all happen, but Lionheart has has no communication
with us for months and Zaku had barely, and went against every single action
that firegal or I put into place.

I was a mod before anyone on ACS's current staff was ever put there, and for
me to be demoted, let alone removed completely from the staff is a complete
injustice. The same goes for firegal who was demoted to a Super Moderator.

You were the former Admin of AceCombatSkies.com, and the one who trusted
Lionheart to take it over. You've had to have had some type of background
with him to let him take over the site, and you need to use that now to tell
him he just made the worst mistake anyone has ever done with ACS, and that
trusting Zaku with any staff position at this point is dangerous. The guy
does not enforce the rules and on actions that are obviously legitmate by
Firegal, he's gone and reversed them (specifically relating to Blarney).
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The following is a second email that I sent to F22_Fan upon seeing that he
was made an Admin again yesterday:

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I see that you're back on as an Admin on ACS, and you need to know that if
Zaku's been telling you anything about Firegal or me, then they've probably
been lies. Also, in addition to that, I have something to say to Zaku's most
recent topic:
http://acecombatskie...showtopic=14554

These are not some of his new fresh ideas that warranted my dismissal from
staff, or Firegal's demotion. The front page is something I've been bugging
Shadow and you about wondering when certain updates would be made, and
Lionheart hasn't given us any type of information regarding a front page. In
addition to that, after he took over, he cut the Admin abilities that Mike,
Firegal, and I had more than in half, restrcting us to member overwatch
stuff only. I even lost access to the logs in the Admin CP, and fought to
get Mod logs when I first lost access.

Pubs we were told a long time ago was a space issue and wouldn't be allowed
on those grounds, so that could never be brought up, and as a full staff
(WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ZAKU) we were even coming up with plans to start a
new Ace Combat war and spark squadron involvement across the board - that
was until issues with Blarney took front and center, and every action we've
tried doing to him OR HIS ALTERNATE ACCOUNT OF TALLY HO were reversed by
Zaku without any discussion, and we only figured out because we knew Firegal
and I were the only ones with that kind of access, and neither of us
reversed it.

Listen, I don't know what you're plans are, but if you want ACS to stay
alive at all, you need to take it over again, and remove all current staff
members (though just make a list of who's on it).Turn the board offline, and
call Firegal, Mike (now Tomcatter 503), and me in. Mike resigned his
position a while ago because of crap like this, but he would definately be
useful in restarting this. Then we need to discuss what to do with the
future, redo the rules and moderator agreements so we can enforce them
easily and the membership knows what to expect, RESET ALL WARNINGS TO ZERO
AND MAINTAIN A WARNING LIMIT (ie: 3 strikes). My version of the system would
be warn, suspension, and ban to each warn level respectively.

Listen, a long time ago before you were Admin, Shadow asked me. I declined
because I didn't have all of the computer expierence for it. When you asked,
it's because I didn't know how to do graphics stuff like the main page.
Well, I still don't know how to design a webpage for ACS, but I do know how
to run the forums effectively and appoint a good staff. I am confident that
this is the point where ACS could either die or strive, and it can only
strive with leadership like we had on AC.net. ACS is becoming too much like
every other gaming forum. We were the place people came to to escape places
like that.

Hell, if I had to do a spot moderator pick now, it'd be half the original
S&S members and half the original Aquila members because we happen to know
how to get things done, and definately have no problem speaking openingly to
eachother. You know that from being with the S&S, and my being an Admin with
Firegal and getting to know Aquila members has told me that they'd be good.
Now, would I just appoint randomly like that? No, but that's what we need in
a moderating staff now. Acefighter's been on and off the radar lately as
well, and if he had the time, I certainly think he'd be a good choice as
well.

What Zaku and Lionheart, and members of the "new community" don't remember,
or don't know, is that AceCombat.net was the one and only option for people
who could actually show respect for eachother to escape placed like the
Namco, IGN, Gamespot, etc forums. We knew how to do the right thing, and get
the job done.
======================================

That gives you some idea of what's going on. Now, my reasoning straight to
you guys.

I've put years and years into hard work maintaining AceCombat.net and
AceCombatSkies.com. Following Lionheart's taking over of the site from
F22_Fan, as I mentioned in my email to F22 above, he removed over half of
the admin capabilities that I had. The only options left open to Firegal and
me (as well as Tomcatter 503) were in the field of dealing with member
accounts.

You guys can see here what I can do with a forum, and how to properly do
things, but while people like Firegal, Mike (Tomcatter), me, as well as some
other members of the staff, tried to really get stuff done, Zaku would
either do nothing or reverse what we did without explanation.

I am asking all members and all former members, every single last one of
you, to help me out here. Make your voices heard. Start a movement on ACS,
send PMs to Lionheart, and do anything else that you can.

I need especially the help of members who have been here a long time, since
the days of AceCombat.net, since you have a lot of pull.

Don't back down. This is an issue worth fighting for, so please help me.

If any of you need to get in contact with me, please email me at
[email protected] or PM me at jfc.mil.nf


Tl;dr: I'm not allowing an S&S and Aquila takeover of ACS, nor is it even realistic due to cooler heads prevailing in both groups. FG's been replaced with F22_Fan and kept as a global mod because she generally does moderator duties and does provide input while Fan can do technical work with the ACP. Eagle was removed because he wasn't doing anything and only had the position because he's been there for years, which only breeds complacency.

And really:

trusting Zaku with any staff position at this point is dangerous.


Is this serious?
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I thought someone had told him the reasons for the sudden changes.
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LOL.

He is a complete hindrance to what makes ACS fun and great for me and others, i'm so happy he's gone.
Eagle, you SO deserved to lose your powers. Since the day you removed mine, I knew it would happen.

Payback's a bitch, no? And like Blarney said:

Deal with it, brat.

Oh, and you're so not worth a movement.

Edited by Bleh, 30 December 2008 - 06:49 PM.

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Zaku, the information in my email is the truth. When we dont have the resources to get the job done, and you reverse decisions that we do make without any type of explanation, then nothing is going to move forward here.

And, as for you and all these new ideas (which aren't exactly new), where the hell were you over the past 4-6 months? Why weren't you bringing them up and putting them into place. You sat there silent, never suggesting anything like this, and considering you're the one with the most contact with Lionheart, of all people, how come you weren't doing anything?

We were handling the situation with what we were given, any the only inaction I've had was in the situation with Blarney, which has taken up a big chunk of our time. I haven't been involved with that because of my belief of personal bias because of an ongoing dispute (and Blarney, it's no secret, it's court-martial time). For me to ban him would seem like it was because of that dispute, however looking back, he should've just been banned because of spamming, flaming, and alternate accounts - Tally Ho - the account that we did in fact banned, and you reversed the ban on.

Tally Ho was a squad thing, and you're involvement with that was a dedication to NCTO and to S&S affairs, and not to ACS affairs. You're an administrator here, and with all the stuff your posting now, you of all people should've known that your job here comes first.

That's why you're dangerous in a position of power like this. If I had full admin abilities, I would do things like I mentioned in the email above. I would put in people who are actually competant in their abilities, regardless of squadron. I mentioned the Sins & Saints and Aquila because there are members of both squads who have the expierence and background to do these types of jobs.

Bringing you aboard was the first in a line of mistakes around here. Another mistake was limiting my admin powers to nearly nothing other than member account access. I had no access to run the forums, or anything else for that matter. I assumed because Lionheart was Root Admin, that he would actually be doing something with regards to updates and the main page, but there was nothing, and for months, you've been silent.

Don't make announcments to the people of ACS stating you've made all of these great changes, so suddenly because of our ineffectiveness. We've tried doing our jobs with the resources that we've had, while you've stood silent.

Edited by Eagle 1, 30 December 2008 - 07:19 PM.

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M'kay, BS. This topic has no longer a reason to stay opened.
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Zaku wanted a discussion, and he has it. If the truth I bring closes this topic, then it's only a bad sign of things to come.
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Woah, TornadoADV vs. Blarney flashback!
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LOL.

He is a complete hindrance to what makes ACS fun and great for me and others, i'm so happy he's gone.
Eagle, you SO deserved to lose your powers. Since the day you removed mine, I knew it would happen.

Payback's a bitch, no? And like Blarney said:

Deal with it, brat.

Oh, and you're so not worth a movement.



This shit is what drives the community down, quite a few of us do it.(Guilty)
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We've tried doing our jobs with the resources that we've had, while you've stood silent.

Zaku's silent because he's busy working to improve ACS, while you're loud because you're too insecure in your ideas to do anything about them.

AKA Zaku's more effective.
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Haha Eagle. I believe that this "contributed nothing to the topic." Maybe a two day suspension also?
I'm having so much fun reading this.
It was your fault for losing your powers and I'm actually happy that you did.

He is a complete hindrance to what makes ACS fun and great for me and others, i'm so happy he's gone.
Eagle, you SO deserved to lose your powers.

Amen.

Hell, if I had to do a spot moderator pick now, it'd be half the original
S&S members and half the original Aquila members

And umm.... No.
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Lets all gang up on Eagle and take shots at him while he's down...

I could swear this topic was about dicussing how to improve ACS... mah bad.
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I could swear this topic was about dicussing how to improve ACS... mah bad.


I know, right?

Anyway, maybe we should try to get back on topic here and discuss these suggestions some more, because they are actually good suggestions.

Edited by Blaze1234, 30 December 2008 - 09:49 PM.

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It was, until Eagle sent out Emails calling for an insurrection against the staff.

BTW, this topic will stay open. Other mods, do not close this.
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improve ACS


As if that's likely with the current attitudes.

WTF everyone.

This website deserves better than you, and it's getting it now.


...what.

I'm sorry, what atrocious thing has he done? Because to be frank, I haven't noticed any recent problems aside from the usual shit-slinging and ego fests.
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A lot of behind the scenes shit.
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What part of "Don't close this" don't you understand?


Sorry, my bad ;)
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Ok, now it's my turn.

Improve ACS? How? With pub topics? No, sir. The only way to improve this site that I see, is a new game, and cutting off it all the huge egos dumb-f**ks that are in there. But guess what, if things will still go on this way, I'd rather seeing this place closed./



What part of "Don't close this" don't you understand?

This topic will REMAIN open. I hope there can be more civil discourse, but open it will remain.


Sorry, my bad ;)

QFT Joey.

Edited by Shin Kazama, 30 December 2008 - 10:03 PM.

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Okay, so this is one big cluster.
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