Starscream
Aug 3 2007, 09:56 AM
Ok we all know that Yellow Squadron are the badasses from AC04, but what I wanna break down is how this squadron goes from being untouchable in Mission 5: Lifeline. Then by games end in Mission 17: Siege of Farbanti they are beatable.
Lets break down the story line of the game how at the start Yellow Squadron has all of its best pilots still and have the supplies needed to make them the top dogs of the skies. At the Battle of Stonehenge Yellow 04 takes off with her plane needing an overhaul. After her death the squadron is then broken up to strengthen other fighter wings. Yellow Squadron by the Siege of Farbanti id nothing more then Yellow 13 with rookie pilots in broken Su-37's.
My question is that by games end you never get to fight this proud Squadron at it's best. Instead you get cheated and fight them at half there strength.
This is why at there peek of greatness, no other AC squadron could ever live up to the mighty Yellow Squadron.
Elude
Aug 3 2007, 01:02 PM
Actually, At Farbanti, it's Yellow 13 and his pilots (the original yellows) while at Megalith, it Jean-Louis and his pilots. I'm guessing that at Megalith its all the reserve or pilots who hadn't fought much.
And I always had the feeling Yellow 4 would've made me into a smore if she had a plane that was fit to fight. So I do agree with what you say. In 'Lifeline' I run away while everyone else is slaughtered, In 'Shattered Skies', they rarely engage me, and by 'Stonecrusher' I wanted to defect to Erusea. However, Yellow Squadron put up a fight at Farbanti and Yellow 13 actually pulled the only sucessful cobra there in my gameplay.
Mercenary Pilot
Aug 3 2007, 01:54 PM
They have plot-armor!
Zero One
Aug 3 2007, 06:40 PM
QUOTE
And I always had the feeling Yellow 4 would've made me into a smore if she had a plane that was fit to fight.
It's a pity she didn't. I found Yellow 13's slipshod gang mere annoyances during Farbanti and Megalith. Now, if Yellow 4 had been there, I'd be willing to bet it would've been a heck of a lot more of a satisfying battle that I would have flown into.
Seraph 5
Aug 3 2007, 08:43 PM
I say it would have been the ultimate dogfight if the Yellows hadn't separated and flown off in different directions as soon as Thirteen said, "Engage as a formation. No single ship attacks." It's usually only two or three attacking at once. Some more radio chatter from them would be nice too. What am I saying?
ACE COMBAT 7: SHATTERED SKIES REDUX
You know you want it.
Axdsilva
Aug 3 2007, 09:30 PM
Who'd deny that?
Very nice conpet, though I think it sshould be called...
AC4X
Cause prequels & re-newing games shouldn't have a continuaution number, I mean look at how many people called ACZ, AC6
Green Giant
Aug 6 2007, 07:31 AM
You actually engage The Yellow's in Shattered Skies and you can beat them.
In Emancipation, you can engage them as well and you can kill them. It's not just at Farbanti and Megalith that you can engage and beat a Yellow.
Anxyous
Aug 6 2007, 07:57 AM
And Stonehenge Offensive, where you kill Yellow 4.
Green Giant
Aug 6 2007, 07:59 AM
QUOTE(Silver 83 @ Aug 6 2007, 11:57 AM)

And Stonehenge Offensive, where you kill Yellow 4.
Oh Yeah..... You DO get to Kill Yellow 4 in Stonehenge.......
Lord of the Aces
Aug 6 2007, 12:18 PM
QUOTE(Seraph 5 @ Aug 4 2007, 12:43 AM)

I say it would have been the ultimate dogfight if the Yellows hadn't separated and flown off in different directions as soon as Thirteen said, "Engage as a formation. No single ship attacks." It's usually only two or three attacking at once. Some more radio chatter from them would be nice too. What am I saying?
ACE COMBAT 7: SHATTERED SKIES REDUX
You know you want it.

Yeah, need more chatter. Three on two engagements in my case Su-37 > A-10
Ace Combat 8:
Band of Legends
You know you want one with
All of the Heroes in it.
Starscream
Aug 6 2007, 01:20 PM
QUOTE(Green_Giant @ Aug 6 2007, 12:31 PM)

You actually engage The Yellow's in Shattered Skies and you can beat them.
In Emancipation, you can engage them as well and you can kill them. It's not just at Farbanti and Megalith that you can engage and beat a Yellow.
In the mission Shattered Skies you can't shoot them down, if you hit one it happens to be Yellow 13, after he is hit he and the yellows bug out of the furrball.
Yellow 13
Aug 6 2007, 01:49 PM
This thread is too much like the "Yellows At Megalith" thread, but my answer there applies here, too.
Please see my last post of that thread, here
http://forums.acecombatskies.com/index.php...st&p=303438If you'd read my reply there, Starscream, you probably wouldn't have posted what you did here.
Seraph 5
Aug 7 2007, 10:54 AM
QUOTE(Lord of the Aces @ Aug 6 2007, 03:18 PM)

Ace Combat 8:
Band of Legends
You know you want one with
All of the Heroes in it.
Want it, but won't get it. It's impossible. Let's think back to the endings of ACZ and AC5...
Cipher disappears, never to be heard of again. Clearly he's no longer serving in any wars.
The Razgriz never flew in the skies of battle again--quite literally, they say this in the ending.
Nah, if you want to have pure awesomeness, give me a version of Shattered Skies that lets you play as a pilot of your choosing: an Erusian, allowing you to live out the fights in the early days of the invasion, to see the Yellows handing the ISAF pilots their asses (

), and possibly to change history; an ISAF nobody, fighting from invasion to victory, with sometimes different, sometimes the same battles as the next character; and of course Mobius 1, who does what he does best--pwn. This way you could have different perspectives, different missions, tons of replay value... even if it did take forever for Namco to make (and I could see that happening), it'd be well worth the wait.
Albino Ace
Aug 8 2007, 08:31 AM
QUOTE(Green_Giant @ Aug 6 2007, 12:31 PM)

You actually engage The Yellow's in Shattered Skies and you can beat them.
In Emancipation, you can engage them as well and you can kill them. It's not just at Farbanti and Megalith that you can engage and beat a Yellow.
I wouldn't exactly call what one can do in mission 8 "beating" them...I'd call that "scaring them off".

Beating them would be having the "SYS: Destroyed" popup on your screen while seeing a beautiful fireball with thick black smoke trailing their remains.
Zhoenix360
Aug 9 2007, 08:50 AM
QUOTE(Elude @ Aug 3 2007, 05:02 PM)

Actually, At Farbanti, it's Yellow 13 and his pilots (the original yellows) while at Megalith, it Jean-Louis and his pilots. I'm guessing that at Megalith its all the reserve or pilots who hadn't fought much.
And I always had the feeling Yellow 4 would've made me into a smore if she had a plane that was fit to fight. So I do agree with what you say. In 'Lifeline' I run away while everyone else is slaughtered, In 'Shattered Skies', they rarely engage me, and by 'Stonecrusher' I wanted to defect to Erusea. However, Yellow Squadron put up a fight at Farbanti and Yellow 13 actually pulled the only sucessful cobra there in my gameplay.
How do you know which is which at Farbanti?
Mobius1
Aug 9 2007, 12:27 PM
QUOTE(Mercenary Pilot @ Aug 3 2007, 03:54 PM)

They have plot-armor!

Character-Shields, more like, made by Grunder.
Starscream
Aug 9 2007, 02:53 PM
QUOTE(Yellow 13 @ Aug 6 2007, 06:49 PM)

This thread is too much like the "Yellows At Megalith" thread, but my answer there applies here, too.
Please see my last post of that thread, here
http://forums.acecombatskies.com/index.php...st&p=303438If you'd read my reply there, Starscream, you probably wouldn't have posted what you did here.

Which reply we talking about bro, you made a bunch of them???
Yellow 13
Aug 9 2007, 03:29 PM
QUOTE
(Yellow 13 @ Aug 6 2007, 06:49 PM)
This thread is too much like the "Yellows At Megalith" thread, but my answer there applies here, too.
Please see my last post of that thread, herehttp://forums.acecombatskies.com/index.php...st&p=303438If you'd read my reply there, Starscream, you probably wouldn't have posted what you did here.
See above????
Mobius1
Aug 9 2007, 09:12 PM
Lol, pwnage by the great Yellow 13.
Green Giant
Aug 10 2007, 06:41 AM
QUOTE(Mobius1 @ Aug 10 2007, 01:12 AM)

Lol, pwnage by the great Yellow 13.
SPAMMAGE by the infamous Mobius1...
You've been warned.......
Name Taker
Aug 10 2007, 12:29 PM
Plain and simple, the Eursias best...
BTW:
*points at m1*
HAHA!
DarknessDemon
Sep 24 2007, 02:28 PM
Mission 4: Lifeline- Yellow Squadron is Invincible
Mission 8: Shattered Skies- You can hit a yellow with as many missiles as you want and you only damage it, plus it has unreal avoidance issues
Mission 12: Stonehenge Offensive- If you have an EF-2000 with an XLAA then taking our 4 is unfortunately, a piece of cake.
Mission 15: Emancipation- Yellows are somewhat tough to beat unless you catch them offguard and at a good angle.
Mission 17: Siege of Farbanti- Yellows are again, somewhat tough to beat unless you have QAAMs
Mission 18: Megalith- the Yellows just flat suck here. Minor annoyances.
Zhoenix360
Sep 27 2007, 04:49 AM
You konw I am sort of dissappointed that you cannot face Yellow squadron in their full strength. But it is indeed the greatest legendary squadron we've had so far, as they appear in mare than one mission. When I first got to the last level, Megalith, when I watched my radar, I actually stared to shake. But instead I fight noobs.
infernal
Sep 30 2007, 11:05 AM
Well, in reality, thats all they really were in the last mission. 13 wasnt a part of the squadron anymore, the Yellows' pilot turnover rate was high, and they had random pilots to fill in their place after the the battle for San Salvacion.
Hikki Kokurabuji
Oct 4 2007, 11:53 PM
QUOTE(Lord of the Aces @ Aug 7 2007, 05:18 AM)

Yeah, need more chatter. Three on two engagements in my case Su-37 > A-10
Ace Combat 8:
Band of Legends
You know you want one with
All of the Heroes in it.
QUOTE(Seraph 5 @ Aug 8 2007, 03:54 AM)

Want it, but won't get it. It's impossible. Let's think back to the endings of ACZ and AC5...
Cipher disappears, never to be heard of again. Clearly he's no longer serving in any wars.
The Razgriz never flew in the skies of battle again--quite literally, they say this in the ending.
Nah, if you want to have pure awesomeness, give me a version of Shattered Skies that lets you play as a pilot of your choosing: an Erusian, allowing you to live out the fights in the early days of the invasion, to see the Yellows handing the ISAF pilots their asses (

), and possibly to change history; an ISAF nobody, fighting from invasion to victory, with sometimes different, sometimes the same battles as the next character; and of course Mobius 1, who does what he does best--pwn. This way you could have different perspectives, different missions, tons of replay value... even if it did take forever for Namco to make (and I could see that happening), it'd be well worth the wait.
I'll kill for this epic game. Seriously.
QUOTE(Zhoenix360 @ Sep 27 2007, 09:49 PM)

You konw I am sort of dissappointed that you cannot face Yellow squadron in their full strength. But it is indeed the greatest legendary squadron we've had so far, as they appear in mare than one mission. When I first got to the last level, Megalith, when I watched my radar, I actually stared to shake. But instead I fight noobs.
That's what saddened me, too. After fighting the war alongside the best enemy ace squadron to take flight, I'd expect the challenges in Megalith to be on-par.
Oh, well, I'm not in the position to complain.
Seraph 5
Oct 5 2007, 06:54 PM
You know, on any difficulty, if you leave the enemy and your allies to fight, the Yellows win. Always.
The real noobs continue to be the ISAF AI...
Albino Ace
Oct 5 2007, 08:14 PM
I love ditching my allies at Megalith to go after Smirnova further north, let all my wingmen die, miraculously kill all the Yellows in my F-4, and then be the glory hound!

Of course, I wouldn't do that to my online buddies...they're not like AI, where you can leave 'em to die and they won't care.
Seraph 5
Oct 5 2007, 08:26 PM
QUOTE(Albino Ace @ Oct 5 2007, 11:14 PM)

Of course, I wouldn't do that to my online buddies...they're not like AI, where you can leave 'em to die and they won't care.

Well, you
can leave 'em, but they ain't gonna just die off.
Unfortunately, the same can be said of all AC5 and ACZ wingmen...
Name Taker
Oct 6 2007, 12:17 PM
I had Grimm and Pixy disappear from my radar once.
Grimm disappereared in Mission 16, the A2A one; Pixy disappearerd in the mission with the nukes, before they went off.
So I guess they CAN die, but they come back in a little bit, they respawn.
Harley
Oct 9 2007, 03:48 PM
I hate Grimm, and Nagasae. I don't mind Chopper, and Snow is just plain great, he doesn't fill the radio with pointless BS
MobiusBlaze
Oct 9 2007, 04:00 PM
Yeah its very true in AC4 ISAFs fighters...well kinda suck. Yellow Squadron have edges of course since they can pull cobras. I liked Chopper...Snow was meh..
Green Giant
Oct 10 2007, 10:13 AM
Ok everyone, this is a topic about YELLOW SQUADRON... So get back onto the topic... This isn't a discussion about the Razgriz.
BlueFox9
Oct 14 2007, 06:27 AM
Out of all the characters etc of AC Yellow Squadron will always be my favourtie! They pilot one of my fav fighters of all time, so I guess that's a bit of a bonus!
Werewolf
Nov 7 2007, 06:35 AM
IMO, so far, Yellow Squadron has been the most dificult adversary in any of the games I've played.. In AC5, the Ofnir and Grabacr were lame. And the 8492 mission was pretty easy.
Viper Ace.
Nov 10 2007, 06:41 PM
Yellow squadron rocks.Only Gault comes anywhere near them in my opinion.
Delta
Nov 10 2007, 09:19 PM
QUOTE(Viper Ace. @ Nov 10 2007, 10:41 PM)

Yellow squadron rocks.Only Gault comes anywhere near them in my opinion.
Being honest, I think Schwarze came in second to Yellow; they were annoying as hell, and kept outmaneuvering my shots.
But yes, Yellow Squadron is the only decent squadron so far. Like Strigon though.
absender
Nov 11 2007, 11:45 PM
QUOTE(Delta @ Nov 11 2007, 01:19 AM)

Being honest, I think Schwarze came in second to Yellow; they were annoying as hell, and kept outmaneuvering my shots.
But yes, Yellow Squadron is the only decent squadron so far. Like Strigon though.
Schwarze was a it of a pain since they hunted you down and were pretty relentles, But Sorcerer Squadron was a challenge as well.. The YF-23's give you a bit of some trouble.
Seraph 5
Nov 12 2007, 03:44 PM
Strigon was a challenge alright, but I don't think they were as aggressive as the Yellows.
QUOTE(absender @ Nov 12 2007, 03:45 AM)

Schwarze was a it of a pain since they hunted you down and were pretty relentles, But Sorcerer Squadron was a challenge as well.. The YF-23's give you a bit of some trouble. And
And...?
Viper Ace.
Nov 13 2007, 05:40 AM
Sorcerer isn't much of a challenge for me,because they let you take them 2 at a time.Gault is more challenging.Schwarze aren't that good 1 on 1,it's just because there are so many of them.They do well for a squadron of MiG-31s though.For fun with Sorcerer,I let them all gang up on me,then I kill them.
Archer
Nov 13 2007, 08:58 AM
I tried to fight yellow after I blew up those oil rigs, and I got massacred, they nailed my F-2 relentlessly.
Viper Ace.
Nov 13 2007, 09:45 AM
You can't kill the Yellows then.I tried it,and failed.They turned my beautiful Strike Eagle into a fireball.
destroyer of the skies
Nov 13 2007, 03:23 PM
QUOTE(Seraph 5 @ Aug 4 2007, 01:43 AM)

I say it would have been the ultimate dogfight if the Yellows hadn't separated and flown off in different directions as soon as Thirteen said, "Engage as a formation. No single ship attacks." It's usually only two or three attacking at once. Some more radio chatter from them would be nice too. What am I saying?
ACE COMBAT 7: SHATTERED SKIES REDUX
You know you want it.

YAY better be on PS2 though,for i have no money becuase MN state law says thta i have to be 14 to get a job
Griffon
Nov 13 2007, 09:46 PM
Yellow Squadron was pretty sweet besides the the fact they fly planes that no longer exist in real life. Strigon, however is my new favorite squadron with yellow in close second followed by Gault.
Archer
Nov 14 2007, 05:37 AM
The Su-37 DOES exist, it is just the fact that the Su-37 is a tech demonstrator, like The F-15S/MTD. I like their tactics though, they really were pretty much the invincible squadron til' their planes fell into disrepair, if that hadn't happened then they would have made it through the war.
absender
Nov 14 2007, 04:19 PM
It wasn't just the equipment in disrepair, it was also the attrition of the pilots. Remember, eventhough they were the best, they still had losses and the replacements couldn't learn fast enough to maintain their invincible image.
Archer
Nov 14 2007, 04:24 PM
True, but in the beginning of the game, it said Y13 had never lost a wingman, so when the Su-37s started to fall apart the pilots transferred to supplement other squads, and the rookies were put in, if the machines worked, then they would have lived.
destroyer of the skies
Nov 14 2007, 06:50 PM
still above all there pretty good nothing compared to grabacr or say PIXY
Archer
Nov 14 2007, 06:52 PM
Grabacr was easy compared to yellow, simply because yellows were the best, and Grabacr was... lacking, to say the least. Pixy was something else in the Morgan, but then again it is a superplane.
Griffon
Nov 16 2007, 08:37 AM
QUOTE(Archer @ Nov 14 2007, 06:37 AM)

The Su-37 DOES exist, it is just the fact that the Su-37 is a tech demonstrator, like The F-15S/MTD. I like their tactics though, they really were pretty much the invincible squadron til' their planes fell into disrepair, if that hadn't happened then they would have made it through the war.
True it does exist at one piont in time there were two, however one of them crashed and the other was converted back to a Su-35. I remember reading about somewhere. I'll post the site if I can find it again.
Green Giant
Nov 16 2007, 09:22 AM
Actually, the one never was converted back. It was actually refurbished back in 1999.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please
click here.